I run a $30K-a-month business on about five hours a week. This show is how.
Weekly episodes on the growth systems and AI workflows behind a digital product business that runs without you glued to it.
Systems you can run twice. Not one-off tactics.
I'm Dr. Destini Copp. I run two digital product businesses and teach the systems behind them. Every episode is something I've already tested in my own business or watched a guest run in theirs.
The numbers behind the offers
What something made, what it cost, and what broke along the way.
AI workflows I actually use
The prompts, skills, and connectors running my marketing right now.
Hot seats with real numbers
Creators bring their list size, open rates, and revenue. We find the leak on air.
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The episodes that walk you through predictable revenue, growth flywheels, and AI.
I Took My Whole Business Apart (Here's What AI Changed)
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How We Actually Use Claude to Run Our Businesses (With Real Workflows)
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Your Lead Magnet PDF Is Dead. Here's What's Replacing It
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Hot Seat: She Has 13K Subscribers and 40% Open Rates — So Why Aren't They Buying?
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Everyone Says Newsletters Are Saturated… But Are They?
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211: Why Nobody Finishes Online Courses Anymore and How to Fix It
Have you noticed how many online courses sit untouched after purchase?
In this week's episode, I'm tackling the uncomfortable truth about why traditional online courses aren't working anymore in 2025 – and exactly what you need to do about it.
I recently gave my own programs a complete makeover after realizing that people weren't looking for more information – they needed better support and implementation help.
I share the specific changes I made to the Digital Product Growth Lab and Newsletter Profit Club that dramatically improved student results, including private podcast Q&As (goodbye, never-ending group calls!), targeted workshops, and personalized growth plans.
Whether you're offering courses, memberships, or group coaching, this episode will help you understand what modern learners actually want and how to deliver it efficiently (with some AI assistance to make your life easier). Your students will thank you, and you'll wonder why you ever did things the old way!

